Oh my, I clicked on save draft and was asked to sign in. After signing in the board placed me at a blank Post A Reply screen. Lost all my message to wearmweer.
In anticipation of the board slamming the door shut on me I copied pasted my post continence to Notepad++. I'm pasting it back into this post as follows:
Oh my. Wearmweer this gets complicated.
First off please be aware I left the database (I'll call this the primary database) as is. What I did was create a new clean database in phpMyAdmin and used my backup of the primary database with bigdump.php to install it into the new database (I'll call this the secondary database). The result is there are two database. I changed all pertinent files to point to the secondary database. The secondary database is the one I have been using while troubleshooting.
Also, be aware I took the phpBB3 folder (prior to any changes) and backed it up. I then renamed the phpBB3 folder on the server to, phpBB3 org (I'll call this the primary phpBB3), and created on the server a folder named phpBB3 (I'll call this the secondary phpBB3) and populated it with the backup (I do have many backups I made along the way). The result is I have two fully working boards. One in folder phpBB3 (secondary), and a another one named phpBB3 org (primary). Be aware each board contains all the files* it needs to access its related database.
I hope I can relate this well... in reality there are two complete sets of phpBB3 and there associated databases. So literally, all I have to do is rename the folder phpBB3 (secondary) to phpBB3-2 and change the folder named phpBB3 org (primary) to phpBB3 and the board is back using the original database unchanged. The reverse is to rename the phpBB3 folders back again and the board and database reflect the changes made while troubleshooting.
Along the way as I have been asked to make a change and observe the result, I made the change to the phpBB3 (secondary) board. Though at times at my discretion I used phpBB3 (primary) to make a change to observe the behavior then returned it to its original state. Then switched back to phpBB3 (secondary) to continue to troubleshoot.
An example, when SSI ask to have the Header Banner extension disabled. I disabled it in phpBB3 (secondary) and observed and reported the results. I then accessed phpBB3 (primary) and made the same change. The result was the exact same as in phpBB3 (secondary). I then returned the phpBB3 (primary) to its original state.
Bottom line is I have the "original" unchanged at hand.
In reading your post do I understand the ACP configurations are contained in the database? If so then, upgrading could proceed**.
Though, given the fact that British English pack is not installed in (primary) and American English is installed and the Board Settings menu in (primary) when clicked shows Header Banner configuration parameters. The upgrade instructions state British English pack is to be the default language but, in (primary) there is no way to set the default language because Board Settings does not display the configurations screen of Board Setting it displays the Header Banner settings. Also, there is Style prosilver-custom installed along with prosilver in (primary). Instructions state only prosilver is to be installed prior to upgrade.
It is due to these issues above I wonder if a new clean install of 3.3.11 could be done and import the (primary) database into it. But, now, based in the information in your post the configuration settings are in the (primary) database which won't do at all.
Is it possible to install new 3.3.11 with an empty database (no users or posts). Then, using the primary database selectively backup individual tables in order to import them into the new empty database. Thereby rebuilding the users, posts and necessary tables leaving the tables containing ACP configuration alone. I have no idea if this even possible.
Anyone have an idea of how to proceed? Worst case I could just upgrade (primary)** and see what happens.
John
P.S. I do have backups of the phpBB3 and database from 2022 and 2023. I could activate one of those older versions to see if the same failures occur. Though, I feel whatever whoever touched the board software did so long ago.
* files such as config.php
** I have 4 identical backups of phpBB3 (primary) with its primary database.
In anticipation of the board slamming the door shut on me I copied pasted my post continence to Notepad++. I'm pasting it back into this post as follows:
Oh my. Wearmweer this gets complicated.
First off please be aware I left the database (I'll call this the primary database) as is. What I did was create a new clean database in phpMyAdmin and used my backup of the primary database with bigdump.php to install it into the new database (I'll call this the secondary database). The result is there are two database. I changed all pertinent files to point to the secondary database. The secondary database is the one I have been using while troubleshooting.
Also, be aware I took the phpBB3 folder (prior to any changes) and backed it up. I then renamed the phpBB3 folder on the server to, phpBB3 org (I'll call this the primary phpBB3), and created on the server a folder named phpBB3 (I'll call this the secondary phpBB3) and populated it with the backup (I do have many backups I made along the way). The result is I have two fully working boards. One in folder phpBB3 (secondary), and a another one named phpBB3 org (primary). Be aware each board contains all the files* it needs to access its related database.
I hope I can relate this well... in reality there are two complete sets of phpBB3 and there associated databases. So literally, all I have to do is rename the folder phpBB3 (secondary) to phpBB3-2 and change the folder named phpBB3 org (primary) to phpBB3 and the board is back using the original database unchanged. The reverse is to rename the phpBB3 folders back again and the board and database reflect the changes made while troubleshooting.
Along the way as I have been asked to make a change and observe the result, I made the change to the phpBB3 (secondary) board. Though at times at my discretion I used phpBB3 (primary) to make a change to observe the behavior then returned it to its original state. Then switched back to phpBB3 (secondary) to continue to troubleshoot.
An example, when SSI ask to have the Header Banner extension disabled. I disabled it in phpBB3 (secondary) and observed and reported the results. I then accessed phpBB3 (primary) and made the same change. The result was the exact same as in phpBB3 (secondary). I then returned the phpBB3 (primary) to its original state.
Bottom line is I have the "original" unchanged at hand.
In reading your post do I understand the ACP configurations are contained in the database? If so then, upgrading could proceed**.
Though, given the fact that British English pack is not installed in (primary) and American English is installed and the Board Settings menu in (primary) when clicked shows Header Banner configuration parameters. The upgrade instructions state British English pack is to be the default language but, in (primary) there is no way to set the default language because Board Settings does not display the configurations screen of Board Setting it displays the Header Banner settings. Also, there is Style prosilver-custom installed along with prosilver in (primary). Instructions state only prosilver is to be installed prior to upgrade.
It is due to these issues above I wonder if a new clean install of 3.3.11 could be done and import the (primary) database into it. But, now, based in the information in your post the configuration settings are in the (primary) database which won't do at all.
Is it possible to install new 3.3.11 with an empty database (no users or posts). Then, using the primary database selectively backup individual tables in order to import them into the new empty database. Thereby rebuilding the users, posts and necessary tables leaving the tables containing ACP configuration alone. I have no idea if this even possible.
Anyone have an idea of how to proceed? Worst case I could just upgrade (primary)** and see what happens.
John
P.S. I do have backups of the phpBB3 and database from 2022 and 2023. I could activate one of those older versions to see if the same failures occur. Though, I feel whatever whoever touched the board software did so long ago.
* files such as config.php
** I have 4 identical backups of phpBB3 (primary) with its primary database.
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